1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,959 (dramatic music plays) The Thieves Guild, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,859 by Jake Care. 3 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:09,219 Season four. 4 00:00:11,639 --> 00:00:13,259 The Order of the Dragon. 5 00:00:15,719 --> 00:00:16,979 Episode two. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,620 Rebecca's Story. 7 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:29,319 Raylan still couldn't comprehend that the Pietro of hundreds of years earlier 8 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:34,119 was the same Pietro that Raylan replaced as the guild master thief. 9 00:00:34,979 --> 00:00:39,699 Rafe didn't have an enormous amount of evidence, but he was absolutely 10 00:00:39,779 --> 00:00:40,720 convinced of it. 11 00:00:41,340 --> 00:00:45,539 He showed Raylan direct evidence, like the signatures and the name 12 00:00:45,899 --> 00:00:49,759 Pietro showing up in margin notes of random books. 13 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:54,540 And he showed him indirect evidence, which was primarily the history of the 14 00:00:54,639 --> 00:00:59,499 Thieves Guild guild masters, which Rafe was positive was 15 00:00:59,539 --> 00:01:01,659 written entirely by Pietro. 16 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:03,079 But how? 17 00:01:03,699 --> 00:01:08,319 This is where Rafe became unsure, and his only theory was that it was 18 00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:12,439 magic. Pietro used magic to extend his life. 19 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:17,699 But if that were the case, Raylan noted, why didn't he use magic to address 20 00:01:17,859 --> 00:01:22,439 all the inequality and suffering within Ness or with the Outlanders? 21 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:27,959 It was as Rafe and Raylan were discussing this when Felos knocked on the door of the 22 00:01:27,999 --> 00:01:32,979 library. Raylan hadn't even noticed his omnipresent guard had left. 23 00:01:32,979 --> 00:01:36,159 Sir, the Outlander woman has requested your presence. 24 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:37,259 Rebecca? 25 00:01:37,859 --> 00:01:38,359 Yes. 26 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:44,219 Raylan was disappointed that Felos couldn't see Rebecca as anything more than 27 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:45,379 an Outlander. 28 00:01:45,499 --> 00:01:48,499 Thank you, Felos. I'll see her when I'm done here. 29 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:51,039 She was rather insistent, sir. 30 00:01:51,659 --> 00:01:53,339 Raylan turned to Felos. 31 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:58,579 Insistent in the "Please see her so she'll stop bothering me" sense 32 00:01:58,899 --> 00:02:03,419 or insistent in the "This is important and may change the future of the guild" 33 00:02:03,419 --> 00:02:03,939 sense? 34 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:05,979 More of the former. 35 00:02:05,979 --> 00:02:10,699 Raylan stood up, walked over to Felos, and slapped him on the back. 36 00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:14,619 Well, let's not make you suffer that fate for any longer than you need to. 37 00:02:15,099 --> 00:02:16,499 Raylan turned to Rafe. 38 00:02:16,499 --> 00:02:19,219 Can you find more references to Pietro? 39 00:02:19,219 --> 00:02:22,059 Probably not, but there are more books I can examine. 40 00:02:22,739 --> 00:02:24,859 As it is though, there aren't many more left. 41 00:02:24,859 --> 00:02:29,339 We should get you to Gauchtland so you can examine Pietro's study. 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,879 It's full of volumes. 43 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:35,419 Raylan walked out, leaving a stunned Rafe behind. 44 00:02:36,419 --> 00:02:41,379 Rebecca's quarters were tucked into the end of a little-used hallway in the building at the 45 00:02:41,399 --> 00:02:46,059 base of the Thieves Tower. It was a large rectangular building, with the 46 00:02:46,139 --> 00:02:48,179 tower rising up from its center. 47 00:02:48,839 --> 00:02:53,199 More than anything, it reminded Raylan of the merchant tower complex. 48 00:02:53,859 --> 00:02:57,339 The door was simple wood, and Raylan knocked lightly. 49 00:02:57,839 --> 00:03:02,139 Rebecca opened the door and looked at Raylan, and then Felos. 50 00:03:02,559 --> 00:03:05,419 No need for a bodyguard, Raylan. I'm harmless. 51 00:03:05,419 --> 00:03:08,559 She waved her arm in the direction behind her. 52 00:03:08,559 --> 00:03:09,659 Come in. 53 00:03:09,659 --> 00:03:11,859 You can wait outside. 54 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:17,219 Felos didn't look happy, but Raylan didn't want Rebecca thinking that her 55 00:03:17,259 --> 00:03:20,779 outburst in the earlier meeting had changed his view of her. 56 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:24,499 It actually did, but he didn't want her to know that. 57 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:29,919 Raylan was unsure what to expect in terms of this secret living quarters of 58 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:32,379 Rebecca's, but he did know one thing. 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,399 He did not expect what he was now seeing. 60 00:03:36,739 --> 00:03:41,639 It was a smaller room, a single living space with a bed and some nightstands 61 00:03:41,679 --> 00:03:46,359 against the wall to the right, and a small table and chairs in the far-left corner. 62 00:03:46,619 --> 00:03:49,819 Its sparseness was overwhelmed by the view, however. 63 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:54,639 Two large windows, two of the largest Raylan had ever seen, 64 00:03:54,959 --> 00:03:59,639 covered the far wall to his left and the back wall. They met at the corner. 65 00:04:00,419 --> 00:04:05,199 Beyond the windows was what looked like a truly majestic view of the mountains 66 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:10,219 that overlooked Ness. If you were sitting, or you were a child, the 67 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:11,619 view was stunning. 68 00:04:12,399 --> 00:04:17,239 That didn't necessarily surprise Raylan. What did were two things. 69 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:22,639 One was that the mountain view was irrevocably scarred by the long swath of 70 00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:26,499 ash and dirt that spread far into the distance on all sides. 71 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:31,719 The room overlooked the ash fields in all their sad and depressing 72 00:04:31,799 --> 00:04:32,359 glory. 73 00:04:33,039 --> 00:04:36,339 Just standing in the room made Raylan depressed. 74 00:04:36,939 --> 00:04:41,379 The other thing was how the room was decorated. The bed was small. 75 00:04:41,739 --> 00:04:46,379 The furniture was small. There was a rug with brightly colored horses 76 00:04:46,459 --> 00:04:51,219 and animals. The wall above the bed had bright colors splashed on 77 00:04:51,239 --> 00:04:55,979 it, as if a child decided to paint, but didn't know how. 78 00:04:55,999 --> 00:04:58,219 This is a child's room. 79 00:04:58,219 --> 00:05:02,679 When I said I had quarters in the tower, I didn't say I was an adult when I lived here. 80 00:05:02,679 --> 00:05:07,599 Raylan hadn't even realized he said the words out loud, but 81 00:05:07,619 --> 00:05:12,359 the effect of the room was shocking. For a child, it was full of color 82 00:05:12,559 --> 00:05:17,379 and wonder. For an adult, it was an oppressive view into the death of 83 00:05:17,419 --> 00:05:18,819 what Ness used to be. 84 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:22,499 Is this the first time you've been here since you were a child? 85 00:05:22,499 --> 00:05:23,799 Yes. 86 00:05:24,419 --> 00:05:28,499 Rebecca didn't elaborate, but wandered over and sat on the bed. 87 00:05:28,939 --> 00:05:30,899 She patted the space next to her. 88 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:34,519 Unfortunately, the chairs are too small for me now. 89 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:37,899 She wore leather breeches and a plain tunic. 90 00:05:38,139 --> 00:05:42,719 It was the kind of practical outfit that guild members sometimes wore around the 91 00:05:42,779 --> 00:05:47,379 house, saving money for guild colors only when they went out in public. 92 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:52,459 The lack of red or black, indeed, the lack of travel 93 00:05:52,599 --> 00:05:57,319 clothes or an elegant dress, completely changed her appearance. 94 00:05:57,979 --> 00:06:02,899 Maybe it was the room, maybe it was the clothes, but Raylan once 95 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:07,539 again had the feeling that Rebecca was a lot younger than he initially thought. 96 00:06:08,269 --> 00:06:12,969 "How old are you?" Raylan blurted out the question, and immediately wanted to 97 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:17,789 kick himself. Why did he keep saying things aloud that he wanted to keep to 98 00:06:17,809 --> 00:06:21,029 himself? Rebecca looked at him and smiled. 99 00:06:21,029 --> 00:06:26,009 "I'm 18. And you are what? 16? 17? 100 00:06:26,569 --> 00:06:28,549 You seem much older than I think you probably are." 101 00:06:28,549 --> 00:06:33,429 Raylan had lost track of his birthday, and he realized he had missed it. 102 00:06:33,429 --> 00:06:37,209 "I'm 16, and you also look older than you are. 103 00:06:37,769 --> 00:06:42,649 These times are aging us. We should be walking through the Golden Triangle, talking 104 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:44,950 about sunsets and boat rides." 105 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:50,609 My dear Raylan, you think of us walking along, holding hands and 106 00:06:50,989 --> 00:06:53,989 talking of sunsets? How romantic. 107 00:06:53,989 --> 00:06:57,289 "You know, you don't have to mock me all the time. 108 00:06:57,690 --> 00:07:01,809 I was just trying to state that we are both too distracted to enjoy our youth." 109 00:07:02,369 --> 00:07:07,289 Before Rebecca could reply, and before Raylan said anything stupid again, he 110 00:07:07,329 --> 00:07:09,609 added, "So why do you want to see me?" 111 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:11,389 We have a mission. 112 00:07:12,049 --> 00:07:15,729 You are to escort me to the tavern, and we are to retrieve the Golden Wand. 113 00:07:15,729 --> 00:07:18,289 Rebecca crossed her arms. 114 00:07:18,289 --> 00:07:21,169 I would like to depart forthwith. 115 00:07:21,169 --> 00:07:26,129 Raylan fully intended on taking Rebecca to the Golden Wand, but he 116 00:07:26,129 --> 00:07:30,589 had so many questions, and with them in a quiet place and no pressing 117 00:07:30,669 --> 00:07:34,289 concerns, he decided to push her as much as he could. 118 00:07:34,289 --> 00:07:38,709 "First, tell me about this room. You were a child. 119 00:07:39,289 --> 00:07:42,229 Did your father and mother bring you here, or was it Pietro? 120 00:07:42,829 --> 00:07:45,329 Were your toddler clothes black or red?" 121 00:07:46,249 --> 00:07:49,229 Rebecca closed her eyes and took a deep breath. 122 00:07:49,229 --> 00:07:53,489 It was Pietro. Always Pietro. 123 00:07:54,149 --> 00:07:58,609 My father and mother died. No one would ever tell me how or 124 00:07:58,669 --> 00:07:59,189 why, 125 00:08:00,069 --> 00:08:02,289 just that Pietro was my only living relative. 126 00:08:02,289 --> 00:08:04,309 "I'm sorry." 127 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:08,989 I didn't know them. It is more of an emptiness than a 128 00:08:09,149 --> 00:08:09,669 loss. 129 00:08:09,669 --> 00:08:14,489 "What was Pietro like as a parent? I fear you must have been left 130 00:08:14,549 --> 00:08:15,269 alone often." 131 00:08:16,449 --> 00:08:19,329 Rebecca opened her eyes and looked at Raylan. 132 00:08:19,329 --> 00:08:24,149 I was, but there were plenty of people who loved him in Goutland, and 133 00:08:24,189 --> 00:08:25,209 helped raise me. 134 00:08:25,949 --> 00:08:30,069 Chief among them was my beloved nanny. She was my true parent. 135 00:08:30,449 --> 00:08:31,409 She raised me. 136 00:08:32,329 --> 00:08:37,029 Grandfather would just come and tell me stories of his life, and this city. 137 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:41,969 Rebecca waved her arm across the room, encompassing Ness. 138 00:08:41,969 --> 00:08:45,029 "My mother and father were strangers to me. 139 00:08:45,629 --> 00:08:50,249 I was also raised by a nanny, but she was cruel, and enjoyed making my life 140 00:08:50,309 --> 00:08:50,889 miserable. 141 00:08:51,609 --> 00:08:55,889 I was known as a miscreant, and I've thought about that a lot since I was named 142 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:56,909 Guildmaster. 143 00:08:57,809 --> 00:09:02,209 I think what I was really doing was trying to get the attention my parents never gave me." 144 00:09:03,129 --> 00:09:05,629 That's horrible, Raylan. I'm so sorry. 145 00:09:06,329 --> 00:09:09,589 She patted his arm gently, and almost intimately. 146 00:09:09,589 --> 00:09:14,229 "My older brother was treated the same, only his response was to be more 147 00:09:14,329 --> 00:09:17,289 cruel and more cold than our nanny and our parents. 148 00:09:17,849 --> 00:09:22,669 I sometimes felt like all he wanted was to control a life that never treated him well, 149 00:09:22,869 --> 00:09:27,269 and in attempting that, created his own sort of cruelty to others." 150 00:09:27,929 --> 00:09:32,529 Raylan looked over at Rebecca, his sad eyes saying more than words 151 00:09:32,589 --> 00:09:35,449 could. "Tell me about Pietro's stories. 152 00:09:35,749 --> 00:09:38,169 I am his predecessor, yet never met him." 153 00:09:38,169 --> 00:09:43,029 They were grand, and all true. He told me he had once traveled to 154 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:48,009 Callisto, a journey that took him weeks. The people there are dark and full of joy. 155 00:09:48,589 --> 00:09:50,929 They sail on seas on large boats. 156 00:09:50,929 --> 00:09:53,449 "I would love to see Callisto." 157 00:09:54,509 --> 00:09:55,509 And Drak. 158 00:09:55,509 --> 00:10:00,149 "Yes, Drak. Pietro's plan was to open the trade 159 00:10:00,189 --> 00:10:03,949 routes. Perhaps our shared dream comes directly from him. 160 00:10:04,869 --> 00:10:09,109 Yours directly, mine secondhand from Allard and you." 161 00:10:09,789 --> 00:10:11,909 I spent many years learning from Pietro. 162 00:10:12,229 --> 00:10:16,969 His dream was constant and unchanging, bring the cities together, for only together could we 163 00:10:17,069 --> 00:10:21,929 reach our potential. I would ask what he meant, but he shook his head, and would then tell me a 164 00:10:21,929 --> 00:10:26,789 story of how Drak supplied this and Callisto supplied that, and how Ness fed everyone. 165 00:10:26,789 --> 00:10:30,289 "I still don't understand why the mountain was brought down. 166 00:10:30,609 --> 00:10:31,529 Did he ever say?" 167 00:10:32,249 --> 00:10:32,649 No. 168 00:10:33,709 --> 00:10:37,749 In fact, it was the one thing he refused to discuss. 169 00:10:38,089 --> 00:10:40,489 The pain of that horrible event hurt him too deeply. 170 00:10:40,489 --> 00:10:45,429 "And he prepared you for bringing everything together by rebuilding the Magic Guild." 171 00:10:45,429 --> 00:10:48,729 Yes. It was all about magic to Grandfather. 172 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:53,829 He knew no magic, but he knew so much about it. The wand was key. 173 00:10:54,429 --> 00:10:58,389 The books in his library were key. He said to me again and again, 174 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:59,469 'Rebecca, 175 00:11:00,109 --> 00:11:04,009 I'm blind. Please help me see. I can only point in a direction. 176 00:11:04,609 --> 00:11:06,249 You are the one who can make the journey.'" 177 00:11:06,249 --> 00:11:11,009 "And that is recovering the wand, the oath, and unlocking all of the 178 00:11:11,089 --> 00:11:12,989 magic knowledge in his library." 179 00:11:13,749 --> 00:11:14,289 Yes. 180 00:11:14,289 --> 00:11:18,229 "And then clearing the mountain and bringing the world together again." 181 00:11:18,229 --> 00:11:20,029 Yes. 182 00:11:20,569 --> 00:11:25,389 Rebecca seemed suddenly quiet, so Raylan decided to ask about better 183 00:11:25,429 --> 00:11:28,689 times, times he was quite curious about. 184 00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:33,429 "Tell me about Pietro in Goutland. I can't believe he was imprisoned. 185 00:11:33,989 --> 00:11:36,969 He was always considered a harmless old man here in Ness." 186 00:11:37,809 --> 00:11:38,929 Rebecca laughed. 187 00:11:38,929 --> 00:11:41,889 He was a harmless old man in Goutland, too. 188 00:11:42,489 --> 00:11:45,629 He was known for telling fantastical stories that no one believed. 189 00:11:45,989 --> 00:11:50,949 It enraged me how he would talk of unlocking secrets between the two cities, and everyone would laugh 190 00:11:50,949 --> 00:11:51,209 at him. 191 00:11:51,209 --> 00:11:53,249 "You believed him?" 192 00:11:53,849 --> 00:11:58,789 Rebecca's face was intense as she stared at Raylan, presumably for 193 00:11:58,809 --> 00:12:00,269 asking such a question. 194 00:12:00,469 --> 00:12:05,149 Of course I believed him. He saw hidden truth where everyone else believed 195 00:12:05,169 --> 00:12:07,849 obvious lies. He saw a future when 196 00:12:08,509 --> 00:12:11,089 everyone else saw a miserable present. 197 00:12:11,691 --> 00:12:16,271 "Was that difficult for you, being the granddaughter of someone everyone thought was an old 198 00:12:16,351 --> 00:12:18,771 man, telling fantastical stories?" 199 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:20,792 Rebekah paused. 200 00:12:20,792 --> 00:12:25,231 "I was lonely. I felt powerless, more even than 201 00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:30,231 Pietro. I lived vicariously through his stories, and that is a life of shadows, 202 00:12:30,231 --> 00:12:30,711 Raylan, 203 00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:35,871 living a life secondhand and a life that no one takes seriously at that." 204 00:12:35,871 --> 00:12:39,031 "I'm sorry. You deserve more than that. 205 00:12:39,731 --> 00:12:42,851 I see now why you are so passionate about your mission. 206 00:12:43,371 --> 00:12:45,651 You can finally be more than a shadow." 207 00:12:45,651 --> 00:12:46,931 "Yes." 208 00:12:47,691 --> 00:12:52,092 Turning on the bed to face Raylan more directly, Rebekah put all her 209 00:12:52,131 --> 00:12:55,831 attention on Raylan, and all her force into her words. 210 00:12:55,831 --> 00:13:00,792 "You asked why he was imprisoned. He was imprisoned for taking to the streets and telling people the 211 00:13:00,871 --> 00:13:01,332 truth. 212 00:13:02,092 --> 00:13:06,992 They shouldn't raid Ness or attack the city. They should work with Ness. 213 00:13:08,291 --> 00:13:13,112 Vilhelm didn't imprison him. He did what he did to you, locked him in his room so he 214 00:13:13,131 --> 00:13:14,312 wouldn't be a distraction. 215 00:13:14,931 --> 00:13:16,871 They were still friends when Vilhelm released him. 216 00:13:17,951 --> 00:13:22,432 I don't need anyone to be my friend, because I don't intend to be nothing more than a distraction." 217 00:13:22,432 --> 00:13:25,351 "Pietro and Vilhelm were friends?" 218 00:13:25,351 --> 00:13:26,692 "Yes. 219 00:13:27,292 --> 00:13:32,072 Vilhelm once said to me, 'I love Pietro for the same reason the whole city loves him. 220 00:13:32,591 --> 00:13:37,311 He tells tales that no one believes, but they can clearly see that Pietro himself believes 221 00:13:37,331 --> 00:13:37,672 them.'" 222 00:13:38,491 --> 00:13:41,531 Raylan was having trouble tracking Rebekah's story. 223 00:13:41,951 --> 00:13:46,771 Pietro seemed to be in Gautland exactly what he was in Ness, an 224 00:13:46,811 --> 00:13:50,451 old man everyone liked but no one took seriously. 225 00:13:51,091 --> 00:13:55,771 Raylan knew what Pietro did in Ness. He built the Thieves Guild into a 226 00:13:55,871 --> 00:13:59,932 force while keeping them hidden. But what did he do for Gautland? 227 00:13:59,932 --> 00:14:02,291 "Did anyone believe his message?" 228 00:14:02,951 --> 00:14:06,071 Rebekah leaned over and put her palm on Raylan's cheek. 229 00:14:06,071 --> 00:14:08,032 "I believed him, Raylan. 230 00:14:08,711 --> 00:14:10,312 I believed him." 231 00:14:13,591 --> 00:14:32,652 (dramatic music) 232 00:14:32,652 --> 00:14:34,651 A Podcast Alchemy production.